‘Briefing Room’: California shooting, Jeff Sessions resignation, Ruth Bader Ginsburg hospitalized
‘Briefing Room’: California shooting, Jeff Sessions resignation, Ruth Bader Ginsburg hospitalized Samaria Sparks Deputy political director, and we come to you today, but obviously on the heels of yet another deadly shooting in this country. Mass shooting this one, the deadliest since the Parkland High School shooting earlier in the year left 17 kids dead, the death toll Thousand Oaks. California, 1112, including the shooter overnight, simply a tragic scene. At a country western bar there in a community full of college students and our Natalie Brunell joins us now she’s alive in that Community. She knows it very well. She went to school there Natalie! I imagine that there certainly been an outpouring of grief this afternoon there all of the college students that were in there, as well as the the college communities, including Pepperdine University, where we have learned that one of the students was among the victims and we are sitting Right law enforcement presence that is still here canvassing the scene for evidence, is all unfolding last night at about 11:20 p.m. when the gunman went into the borderline Bar and Grill here in Thousand Oaks and spray, the area with bullets, bouncer first and then heading inside and Shooting the victims inside people went into a state of chaos, people throwing chairs through Windows, trying to get to safety and helping each other. I get to First Responders right now. We’Re learning Lil bit more about the suspected gunman twenty-eight-year-old iron long. He and with a veteran of the United States Marine Corps – and we know that he had several run-ins with law enforcement. But really the big question is: what was the motive? Why would he choose this at the Target because, as you mention so many college students here last night, it was actually college night on this happened on Wednesdays. I remember it from my time at Pepperdine, and this was a night where 18 19 20 year old were able to come here. They got at an Exxon there antutu signal to the bartender that they were not old enough to drink the anger wasn’t to drink. It was really to just go out, have fun at dance. There were line, dancing nights, salsa, dancing, nice, and this is really hitting the community hard just absolutely heartbreaking, tragedy. Natalie. Thank you so much for that report and we know you’ll stay on the story for ABC News, Pierre. You know it feels, like we’ve been here so many times before, just last week feel so long ago, but that shooting at a cynic in Pittsburgh, 11 dead senseless acts. They keep happening. We can talk about guns. We have some guests coming up to talk about that, but also seems here with a former Marine. Potentially some mental health issues at play. It looks like there was an incident in April are telling some of the reporters there that the mother was concerned about acts of violence of prone to Violent outbursts. If you will in one particular call there was caught a banging on the walls when they were described. The mother is to koalas, have been kicked in, so that was the state of the home, so police came to the scene. Apparently there was some conversation about whether he should get a psychological evaluation. Nothing was done or nothing was not enough evidence to have him committed and no stop put on his ability to buy a weapon so apparently bought the weapon legally and, as you said, the country is dealing with an increasing number of mass shootings increasing in frequency and Larger and larger and scale I just a thumbnail search since last October. Las Vegas have been at least six of these type of shootings, including yesterday, with 129 people killed in simply incredible, and we know that’s a two of Our Guest joining us now. I dr. Jen Ashton, ABC News. Medical correspondent of course, Mark Kelly, former astronaut and gun control Advocate joins us as well, it’s great to have both of them in this conversation with you. What’S your reaction to 222 this this latest killing in in the context of the numbers. Siding and your efforts, it seems we’ve been here so many times in just the past year, lot of positive memo, some water young people out there, and yet these things simply keep Happening well, we’ve got 4 % of the world’s population and 46 % of the world’s Firearms. We’Ve got more guns and people and we make it the easy for people who are have mental health issues are felons. Even legally Bandits suspected terrorist can buy firearms in our country, so we’ve got a lot of loopholes in the laws we got to fix them. California, a pretty good job at this. It’S not going to stop everything. Several years ago, in California, there was a gun, violence, restraining order that was passed through ballot initiative and what that means is, if you identify a family member or and who you feel is a danger in danger of shooting themselves or somebody else. You can have that. Firearm pretty easily removed from the from the home under current law in California. Obviously you know this. This person slip through those cracks, but you know we know that with stronger gun laws, there is less gun violence. It’S clear across the country is clear across the planet as well, so we could. We just got to do a better job. We had an election that really spoke to this just two days ago and is going to allow us to make some serious change and Congress, and I do want to ask you about that in a second. But we want to bring dr. Jen Ashton into this as well. Dr. Ashton, it does seem here as Mark was saying that the mental health system sort of the reporter to the system’s weren’t. There, the suspect have been getting, some help would have been seen, have been on the radar, what’s the fix for that, and why can’t we seem to to breakthrough on stepping up the the resources? You know. I think when you talk about the mental health issue here, they’re really two elements or two sides of it that we need to be aware of number one: the shooter in many many cases of these horrible tragedies. There is a clear mental health or mental illness angle to this, because otherwise Asain healthy person could not possibly do to one other human being, let alone many others. What what a lot of these people do? That’S the case in the majority of cases, not all but the majority. So what do we need to do for that? The things that Mark Kelly was just talking about. We need to treat this no differently than if you saw someone bleeding on the street or having a these are on the street. We hope you wouldn’t just walk over that person. You would bring them to medical attention or bring medical attention to them. If you feel that someone is in danger of hurting themselves or someone else, we need to drop the stigma that says so City with mental illness and get that person help. That’S one aspect: the other aspects here, which is very very important for all of us to keep in the front of our minds and hearts on a day like today, is that when we keep hearing and seeing tragic and violent cases of violence, particularly gun violence, like We’Re seeing now like we saw in Pittsburgh, it takes a toll on all of our mental health and conditions. You can’t watch these things or here about them and not empathize and sympathize with the victims, their families, the First Responders, and that does psychological stress and damage to us as a society that we need care for. So we need to care for the victims when care. For the shooters in many cases, and we need to care for ourselves, have police or others in the governmental Community, if you will who have interactions with someone who’s showing some level of distress or violence particular put, the police have an encounter. There’S say that there’s got to be a better way for the come to Blink red if that person goes into tried to buy a weapon, at least to let law enforcement know hey that person that you have a conversation with two months ago, 6 weeks ago, this Person is trying to buy a weapon, so that could be something follow up, even if you don’t confiscate the weapons and trying to find some common ground here, it does seem that mental health protections restrictions on gun buyers seems to be one of at least from a Recent polling, the Pew Institute, had a 9 % of gun owners and non-gun owners of like supporting preventing people with mental illnesses, from getting being able to purchase a weapon. You have your pulse on Congress in the legislative pipeline. Is there an effort of foot? Could we see something play some mental health in this new Congress to think what we could just say when you say 80 % of Americans? That’S true right: 94 % of Americans support Universal background checks for all gun sales. 60 percent support stronger gun laws to protect people from gun, violence that does not extend to the gun. Lobby. Though, and that’s part of the problem is Adele at about every turn will oppose what seems to the rest of us could be common sense legislature. Let me give you an example: under current federal law, the Veterans Administration can send names to the National, instant criminal background check system of people that they really feel are danger to themselves, or I there’s a hundred and seventy-four thousand of those in the system and those People are, in theory, prevented from buying a firearm. The problem with this is just about. 2 years ago, the House of Representatives tried to undo the that with a new piece of legislation. I think it was HR 1181 to try to remove that from the system. It hasn’t been debated in the senate or voted upon. We hope it doesn’t pass, but my point is even when it comes to mental health and keeping guns out of the hands of people that are potentially dangerous, Lee mentally ill. We have the National Rifle Association and some members of Congress a lot of them largely from the Republican Party work against us this Congress. So this selection two days ago, was a referendum on gun safety, and NBC poll showed that it was a top. It was a set, you know second, most important issue among Democrats. Fourth, most important overall people, I see some change, and now we have a House of Representatives that can deliver that and you search sure did your organization Michael Bloomberg’s. Every time for gun safety also had some electoral success, as we saw the number of races, morales’s tracking those Virginia Pennsylvania, Colorado, Arizona, Minnesota on platforms, running on platforms for gun, violence, safety protections. Can you add more power? Seven candidates, 249 of them, 195 of them – are going to Congress. The NRA lost 333 of their top rated people from the House of Representatives. Not only did we get no help raise money for candidates. We raise money, spend money on this issue to get people elected to office in one can in the case of for house races. We we put up about 7 million dollars to help these people and we we had people across the board, Bowl Democrats and Republicans by the way that ran on a platform of gun safety. So this issue 1 at The Ballot Box in the House of Representatives here a couple days ago and now we’re going to pass legislation in the house. And now it’s going to go over to the Senate. If they’re just going to sit by and do nothing which is typical or they’re going to feel some pressure to actually Act today, women in the United States 11 times more likely to be murdered with a gun than peers and other country. We often see that women are more likely to be victims. Why is that domestic violence? A lot women are more often shot and killed by people. They know where four men, it’s more likely, that it comes from a stranger, strong domestic violence. Legislation like a bill, Amy Klobuchar, is a sponsor of the United States. Senate can really go a long way to protecting women from gun violence. I think it comes back to the fact and – and this is coming from a gun owner – somebody who served in the military for 25 years – I’m a supporter of the second, but when we have 46 % of the world’s Firearms, among 4 % of the world’s population, We’Ve got a lot of guns and they very frequently lined up in the wrong hands. So because of that, we need to take extra step to make it hard for certain people to get guns, and we generally don’t do that. And dr. Ashton, one of those low-hanging pieces of fruit – if you will for gun safety Advocates here and also even the NRA in some cases, seems to be restarting some government research on the gun, violence epidemic in this country it effectively hasn’t taken place. Aren’T any government Studies by the CDC since 1997, since the so-called Dickey Amendment went into place right now to get that important? Is it to get those? Did you get that data to get the CDC to look at this as a health and safety problem for American? It’S important, you know we’re starting to see more of it in the medical literature there have been articles about guns and gun, violence and gunshot wounds in OBGYN journals and pediatric journals, the CDC starting, of course, a little bit late, but to be more aggressive with how They collect data, but I I just want to get back to that too issue about gun violence against women, because I think it really Bears emphasis here that we here so much now in the me-too movement about the path to parody in everything. I want to be crystal clear in Madison in health, women are decades behind where they should be in a country like the United States, and we need to change that. There are major gender differences in medicine and in terms of access of care care that women disease processes that affect women differently than men, and now we’re hearing statistics like gun violence against women. We have to be very careful when we say treat women exactly the same as men, because his medicine, at least in some cases they shouldn’t treated exactly as men there different in some ways they need more attention. Things occurred differently. This is not a one-size-fits-all approach in medicine and in science, and I think to do that runs the risk of not giving women the care, the research and attention that they need an important reminder for sure, as we all sort of hope. That this moment is a turning point in ways that others have not our thanks to Mark Kelly for joining us alive today for his input and dr. Ashton, we know you’re sticking around so thank you both very much for coming to the briefing room moving on today. Here in Washington, maryalice we’ve got the continuing Fallout from the firing of Attorney General Jeff sessions Yesterday by President Trump and today scrutiny started, focusing on his replacement at the former Chief of Staff to Jeff sessions, Matt Whitaker, someone who has a controversial past criticizing the Mueller Probe Democrats in a tough spot, they wanted to come in with a new majority in the house and passed some legislation potentially on Healthcare will corruption and now, almost as if the president, during them to work on investigations of this nature and said castigate. In fact, today, right out of the gate, a number of Democrats have sent letters to the White House asking him to preserve documents related to the firing of Jeff sessions. Looking into the past of Matthew, Whitaker and legal contributor, Kate shot just now by phone talk a little bit more about that background. How could impact a fight over the appointment of Matt Whittaker to be the acting attorney general cake great to have you with us? We understand that the West Wing is buzzing this afternoon over an iPad that just posted in the Washington by the husband of kellyanne Conway, George Conway, he’s a constitutional scholar and he is raising some questions. A contrarian contrarian take a look here. He says that we can’t tolerate the evasion of the Constitution’s explicit, precise design that being at the Senate, has to confirm someone who was going to leave the justice department, Matthew, Whittaker’s, and nobody is job, as Chief of Staff didn’t require confirmation in for the president, install Matt Whittaker is the chief law enforcement officers to betray the charter of the document. The Constitution does he have a fair point? Kate Shaw – and this is the second reason op-ed – the two of them have written together and they seem to be trying to make the point that certain constitutional principles transcend partisanship. Though there were a couple of weeks ago, arguing against the president’s proposal to end Birthright citizenship. That suggests that installing without send it consideration or confirmation somebody to head the justice department is unconstitutional. Now, there’s a statute that does allow the president to install someone on an acting basis. Statute is unconstitutional and no cartel himself was actually the acting, so is their General. Under President Obama, but he says that was you know, that’s an inferior kind of position. The acting solicitor-general has a couple of bosses above him, the Attorney General, the justice department. In for position that important the Constitution says, the president has nominated the Senate has to take a look right. Nobody scrutinize the background of its individual to assess you know that kind of use he holds. The kind of you know whether he’s actually fit for a position like this, and so they suggest is unconstitutional, and I I’m not surprised to hear The West Wing is buzzing about it in the United States without any confirmation. Any scrutiny, as you point out, to certainly unprecedented in many ways. I guess the next question is before we let you go cake. Can this be challenge? Who would bring a challenge to this appointment initiated by the justice department, could raise a challenge that the justice department is headed by an individual who is installed unconstitutionally, so you know, is literally any action that there aren’t that they take right now could be fraught with Some legal doubt and you I should say that just now, I’m saying it’s not just George Conley but other prominent conservative thinkers, including it looks like John you who it was at the head of the office of legal counsel under George W bush, and also he’s very Prominent conservative scholar and a proponent of executive power in Presidential Power also seem to agree. This is an unconstitutional appointment. I think if we really here kind of a growing chorus of Skeptics about the constitutionality of what has happened at the White House, is either going to quickly need to move, to actually nominate someone and subject them to send it scrutiny, or you seriously will challenge you Know in the very near future, shifting gears a little bit the midterm politics, we’re still tracking the results from Tuesday night’s historic elections, Mary Alice and there are some Cliffhangers out there. In fact, I’m fascinated by what’s going on in Florida and Andrew Gillum, the Democrat African in candidate conceited, now he’s sort of walking it back right now I complete walk back, but we all found on Election night. There onstage kind of formula can stay in front of the cameras, and yet, as these absentee and provisional ballots and come in and the margin is really narrowed in his also in a bill, Nelson’s favor, the Democrats that would trigger an automatic recount we came to are They are under half a percent apart and I’ll order, which would be the which would be the trigger about 38,000 votes and Andrew Gillum. You saw their just speaking says: let’s count every vote, let’s see it so that could be headed also in the senate. Race Bill. Nelson Democrat, Rick Scott, that’s also a hair sliver and disclose unbelievably close as possible to get a recount in both so flashbacks to 2,000 and the hanging Chads and it’s going to be could be headed to Florida soon and broadcasting live from. There were also keeping our eyes on the Georgia governor race, Stacey Abrams, in a very close race. There was Brian Campbell, though he’s declared he’s resigned today. His post, as Secretary of State, he’s ready to move into his new digs Over States. Prince says workout and every vote as well, necessarily that she thinks she would surpass them in the total vote count, but keep him from an automatic Victory, because in Georgia you have to get 50 % plus one to not go to a runoff election, and it is That close in that narrow she’s trying to hit the runoff threshold and make you be back down there as well shivers down their spine liberal icon on the Supreme Court, Ruth Bader Ginsburg suffered an accident last night at the court. She fell in her Chambers. According to the court – and it has been hospitalized, she is still at George Washington University Hospital. Three ribs were called 85 years old. That is no insignificant thing we have. Doctors in Ashton is back with us. Dr. Jen give us your sense, obviously not seen her first 10 or seen her chart, but how serious something like some broken ribs in a fall at age 85, really anything that happens and someone who is 85 even in the best of health, could be potentially serious. That’S why there’s a whole specialty in medicine called Jerry, try to take Specialized Care for four people in this age group. They are more susceptible to complications for the same type of injury or disease, as a younger person would be. But here’s what I really want people to know about rib fractures. They are excruciating Lee painful and that’s when just one rib is fractured or broken. When you have multiple fractured ribs you to think about it, it is impossible to rest the rib cage. Every time we take a breath, those ribs are moving. You can’t put cast on the ribs, like you can, with a broken arm or broken leg, so the bulk of initial hospitalization is usually for pain control, but the other things you want to keep an eye on. When you talk about an elderly person, any internal bleeding weather at the fall that was strong enough in some cases to break ribs could cause a head injury. Although you know it also have to remember that both men and women develop osteoporosis with age so often times it can be incredibly minor fall that causes a rib fracture in an elderly person and then the things that we would watch down the road breathing pneumonia risk. If you can’t take deep breaths, it does place you at increased risk for pneumonia. So it’s the opposite of counterintuitive, but you want to get someone up ambulating moving around sitting up as quickly as possible as long as they’re paying is well-managed because that’s going to generate the the best air movement and the best environment for their lungs to help prevent The onset of pneumonia, but she’s one tough cookie, so she works to be with her through 2020, so she is determined to stay on footnote to today’s news out of the Court. President Trump went to the court this afternoon for the investiture ceremony for the newest Supreme Court, Justice Breyer Cavanaugh course Ruth Bader Ginsburg wasn’t there, but I think we have a picture. Here’S the president with his newest Justice, singing the he can’t get it Brad Kavanagh and the pictures a big smiles there and, of course, fascinating to see the president among all those justices who Marianas could decide some pretty significant cases challenges perhaps involving the mall, invest. Coming very soon, abortion cases Saints R. I know that this is a very new supreme court and they’re looking for cases that they potentially can work to get up to the bench by fast Supreme Court in tomorrow. Here in the briefing room, we thank you for joining us today. Of course, you can file the latest and all these stories, a baby news seniors.com in the ABC News, app The latest politics headlines from Washington, DC.
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