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Frank Figliuzzi: Russia-Donald Trump Collusion Question Is Not Yet Answered | The 11th Hour | MSNBC
No President should ever have to go through what we’ve gone through in the first 2 years. It’S a hoax Senator Richard burr from the great state North Carolina he’s chairman of the Senate intelligence committee and they’ve, been investigating this Russia hoax for 2 years, which you just announced that they found no collusion, but Donald Trump and Russia on something that all of us Could see out in the open May in fact give us the clearest window yet end of the question at the core of the secretive mother and navigation. The New York Times calls our attention to this transcript of the closed hearing for Paul manafort. This was the hearing where prosecutors laid out the reasons they revoke manafort’s cooperation agreement with the feds detailing what are his. Why is about his contacts with konstantin kilimnik that associate? I do Russian intelligence when the judge asked why those allege lies were so significant. The federal prosecutor said this about a meeting August 2 of 2016 between manafort, then the chairman of the Trump campaign remember Rick Gates, another campaign aide and kilimnik quote. This goes to the larger view of what we think is going on and what we think the motive here is. This goes very much to the heart of what the special counsel’s office is. Investigating. Prosecutor continues in 2016, there’s an in-person meeting with something someone who was understood by the FBI: access to be have a relationship with Russian intelligence. This is an in-person meeting at an unusual time for somebody who is the campaign chairman to be spending time and to be doing it in person that meeting and what happened to that meeting is of significance for the special counsel. Well, our friends with the New York Times right that those romance quote suggest that the special counsel continues to pursue at least one theory that, starting while Russia was taking steps to bolster mr. Trump candidacy. People in his orbit were discussing deals to end the dispute over Russia’s encouraged in the Ukraine and possibly give Moscow relief from economic sanctions imposed by the United States and its allies. Well with us tonight to talk about it, Frank figliuzzi, former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence, who in the past has 41 Robert Mueller Frank. Sometimes I guess in your line of work, the gun and the dead guy’s hand is the gun that killed the Dead Guy and we all read this transcript the parts of it that we’re not redacted. I went over this part of the transcript, but it was in reading the way, the times handled it and kind of separating this out. That kind of shook us awake today. My question to you is: what is that term you used today about a contagion and what is this answer and what? What questions does this race viewed for quite sometime, Paul manafort as one of the significant conveyance measures, the the method of transfer, what I called the Russian infection into the campaign? Now, let’s be sure there are historical Milestones of trump being involved with Russia that go way back and pre-date manafort and let’s also be clear. There are other vectors that may have conveyed the Russian infection to the campaign and I believe Rodger Stone may have been one of those. But clearly in this transcript we see a senior prosecutor on the special counsel team, giving us a glimpse into the mind of Mueller, and by that I mean he’s telling us and he’s actually reminding us Bryan what the special counsel investigation is all about. What was it about from the start? It was started as a counterintelligence investigation. In fact, we recently learned the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation that predates the special counsel’s appointment to determine whether our president was compromised or not, or whether the Russians had influenced this President. This candidate so to earn that they believe that manafort is lying for a reason. That’S at the heart of the special counsel, investigation, Russian collusion question, and we here Andrew Weissman, the prosecutor, telling the judge look he’s lying about something really important. This is what we think has happened. This is what the larger picture is all about. Now I find it fascinating that that’s not, and there are many many lines in this current transcript that were jeans so sensitive that they were redacted. I can only imagine what those lines read, but the way I’m reading what’s not redacted is that this ain’t over yet Russian collusion question is, is still being worked aggressively and they’re pointing squarely at manafort. Now that answers a question about collusion, but it begs lots of other questions that aren’t answered. Why are others like about Russia Mike Flynn, for example, Cohen line before Congress? Why are people lying about Russia and is the heart of that answer, because Russia, it was involved in a quid pro quo, this for that a favor for a favor and what was that favor that Russia was doing for the campaign and what was the campaign offering In return for Russia, so let’s speak plain English here in your view, there’s a very good chance that when we see something like a mother report, part of what they’re going to ask the American public to buy and understand is a plot line akin to some offer Of a cyst to get Ronald Donald Trump elected and the quid pro quo was, we can make you Russia. We can make your lives better as a result exactly and we’re seeing a hint about what what run into that transaction would have look like, which may likely have been a promise that we’re going to have a favorable policy for you, rush a regarding Ukraine and or Crimea, that could have been what drove this relationship, among other factors, for Russia to help the campaign. This is this is conjecture but Brian, its smart conjecture, based on all we’ve learned so far, and the Revelation in the transcript 30 seconds raining. You think it is also educated, perhaps infused and motivated the raid on Rodger Stones house. You think in large part they’re looking for stuff along this plotline, yes and, in fact, less inclined to think that Mueller is about to wrap up, even though we’re hearing it for people like Matt Whitaker. I think it when we see wise men say what he said in his transcript when we see Rodger Stone’s home raided in they take volumes of ever this Russia thing is still going and not yet answered.
Why we might have just gotten the clearest window yet into the thinking of the highly secretive Mueller investigation. Frank Figliuzzi joins to give us his take.
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